NASA Values Education

Taking Up Space welcomes guest blogger Joe Charbonnet, a student at Georgia Tech and an intern at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. Charbonnet participated in the March 4, 2011, in-flight education downlink with astronauts on the International Space Station.

Joel Stein, Joe Charbonnet and Heather Smith

From inside NASA’s Payload Operations Center, Joe Charbonnet(center) talks to the astronauts on the International Space Station. On eitherside of Charbonnet are NASA intern Joe Stein and NASA writer Heather R. Smith,who also talked to astronauts during the call. Image Credit: Emmett Given/NASA

Participating in the downlink with the STS-133 and Expedition 26 crew was a truly special experience. Beyond just the undeniable and perhaps cliché “cool factor” of being in a control room surrounded by people simultaneously monitoring six display consoles and wearing a headset while talking to astronauts in space, the event was enlightening in the insight that it provided to the perspective of our astronauts.

It was commented that given the cost of having the ear of eight astronauts for 25 minutes, this is likely the most expensive phone call I will have ever made in my life. It is a testament then to the value that we put on education here at NASA, that this opportunity was deemed worthy of those resources.  I believe that the astronauts themselves endorsed this value when Captain Steve Bowen said that the inspiration of young people to pursue the sciences is the most valuable accomplishment to come out of spaceflight so far. I can think of no better way to invest our time and resources at NASA than encouraging the pursuit of scientific discovery and exploration that can liberate the minds and spirits of our youth.

I was particularly struck by Mission Specialist Nicole Stott’s answer to the question of which missions from spaceflight’s history she would most like to have flown on. In responding that she would most like to fly on the missions that she has, in fact, flown during her career, she reminded me that despite its recent relative lack of media coverage, spaceflight is still exceptionally rare and that each mission is extremely valuable. We have made a mere handful –less than 200 — manned trips into space. We are making excitingly new and significant discoveries each time we fly and truly blazing the way for future generations of astronauts to make bounds beyond what we can conceive of at this time. And though not quite as select a group as the Mercury Seven, today’s astronauts will still be seen as the venerable pioneers of the frontier of space. This was a thought that had not occurred to me until hearing Mission Specialist Stott’s answer, and consequently was one of the most intellectually enlightening points of the downlink for me personally.

I also was struck by the heavy focus that robotics received in the blog readers’ questions. A full 20 percent of the questions explicitly discussed robotics in space, and I believe that that shows great promise for this field of study as we as a society progress technologically. I think that the response to the question which I asked Colonel Eric Boe really set the stage for that line of discussion throughout the half hour. By responding that our progress in the development of robots today is analogous to that of computers 50 years ago, he conjectured a future in which robotics plays an integral role in not just spaceflight but everyday life. This is an exciting implication of the progress that NASA has made towards technology that could one day be considered essential to life on Earth. As Mission Specialist Stott later pointed out, robots are primarily a convenience — albeit a tremendous one — at this point in our spaceflight systems. From the prospective of these astronauts, one day soon we will have robots contributing not only in ways that humans couldn’t perform physically, but also in roles that are imperative to life in space.

It was also refreshing, if not totally unexpected, to see the unabashed joy these astronauts have to be doing what they do. Be it the “stupid astronaut tricks” that Commander Steve Lindsey spoke of and the crew needed little prompting to perform, or Colonel Cady Coleman’s comment that the thing that she most likes to look for on Earth is the absence of political boundaries, it is clear the astronauts are aware of the greatness of their opportunity. It is also loud and clear (or 5×5 in Communications parlance) that they come to space to have fun, to do important science, to inspire, and to be inspired.

Joe Charbonnet and Heather Smith

Joe Charbonnet adjusts his headset in preparationfor the downlink event. Image Credit: Emmett Given/NASA

With Two Seconds to Spare

The education downlink with the STS-133 and International Space Station crew went off this morning without a hitch. Voice checks were good. We started on time. We made it through all 20 questions with just enough time to say a sincere and heartfelt thanks to the crews for talking to us when our time drew to a close.

The astronauts gave great answers to questions about robotics, the legacy of the space shuttle, what it’s like in microgravity and how they tackle problems in space. We’ve got it all on video, and we will be sharing their responses and those videos here on the blog. For now, a few pictures from the event and the promise of more to come.

Downlink Tips From Up Above

Dottie Metcalf-Lindenburger floating on the International Space Station

In preparation for tomorrow’s downlink interview with the STS-133 crew we thought it would be fun to talk to an astronaut who’s participated in the in-flight conversations with students and hear what the experience is like for the astronauts. We know what it’s like for students, but what do astronauts think about talking with students from space?

So we asked astronaut Dottie Metcalf-Lindenburger, who I’ve blogged about before. Dottie was a mission specialist on the STS-131 space shuttle mission in 2010. During the mission she participated in two education downlinks: one with more than 1,000 students gathered at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey Bay, Calif., and one with students in Gibsonville, N.C., from the auditorium at Eastern Guilford High School.

One of the first things I asked Dottie was to compare the experience of talking to students while standing flat-footed at their school and talking to them with feet floating in the air. How is that experience different for the astronaut being interviewed? Dottie said the space environment lends the conversation to more improvisational moments. “When you’re on Earth and you’re trying to talk about space, it’s hard to make the demonstrations because you’re not in 0 g and you’re in the 1 g environment. I think you can still make (a) great impact (on Earth). It’s just maybe you want to show some clips of video or show some pictures of people that are working or doing things in space to illustrate what you’re trying to talk about. …

“Having now been in space it’s a lot easier to be excited when you’re there in space. I’m always excited about our space program, but I just think when you’re there floating around you don’t even have to work at the excitement energy, while here (on Earth) you might put a little more effort. … You can’t help but be excited while you’re in space!”

We talked about if any moments stood out from either of the in-flight downlinks in which Dottie participated. “I remember a student asking what type of science we were doing in space, and (I) just tried to explain to them there is all the different spectrums of science from your physical and chemical sciences, to engineering, to astronomy, especially with AMS (Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer) coming, but also there are some other astronomy payloads that are up there, to biological on humans, plants and animals, so that all of the sciences that they learn in school happen on the International Space Station, and it really is a science lab.

“It’s hard to tell students about all those payloads because a lot of the investigations are at a post-graduate level but wanting to get them interested in these different sciences that they’re going to have the opportunity to study in school so I remember trying to think ‘how could I put that into something that they know right now at middle school (level)’ and put it into their words because they haven’t maybe even been exposed to some of these sciences yet, so that’s hard. That was a hard question for me!

“And then of course the easier questions that are always fun are what are your favorite foods or what are you eating in space, how do you sleep there. We got those on both of the downlinks we did.”

Dottie said she tried to make the downlink personal to the students and the school they were talking with. She wanted to make a personal connection with them so they would know that the astronauts were interested in them too and not focused only on answering their question.

“We knew before we were flying who we were going to be talking to, and so while I was quarantined I just got some information about the high school so we could kind of give a little shout-out to the school and know their mascot, maybe know the names of a couple of the teachers that were going to be there just so the kids see that you’re trying to be invested in them too,” Dottie said. “When we were on orbit and actually doing (the downlink), since it is kids, we tried to also show that we were having a lot of fun up there because if you just answer the question, if you just tuck you feet under a handrail and look like you’re standing there then the kids don’t really understand that you’re in space. So Clay (Anderson) hung upside down from one area, and we did some flips and Dex (Commander Alan Poindexter) was throwing food to us, and so we were just trying to make it interactive but also just demonstrate ‘hey, we’re really in space.’”

Dottie had one piece of advice for me tomorrow: speak clearly into the phone. “It was helpful to have that list of questions because sometimes it’s hard to understand the kids. When they get to the mic they get excited or they get nervous or maybe they get too close to the mic. A couple of the questions were actually difficult to understand. Some kids came through much more clearly then others. I wanted to be able to answer the question with the student’s name in the question and make sure I was answering the right type of question. So I think it will be easier for you guys because you’ll speak very clear, and if there’s any miscommunication with the question you can repeat it. It’s harder to get kids (to repeat it) because then they move away from the mic. They ask their question then they move away, they don’t even wait for the answer, and part of that is just the nature of the (event). I think it will be good for your event. I think you’ll have an easier time.”

We closed out our talk with talking about the importance of in-flight education downlinks for inspiring and exciting students about space and human spaceflight. “They are definitely important events,” Dottie said. “We do, when we’re on orbit, take a couple of minutes to collect up some items to make demonstrations. We take them seriously too, and we get to have some fun and we appreciate that too. Of course we were all once their age so we want to inspire them. It’s a fun event for us too.”

I Knew 'Em When …

Taking Up Spacewelcomes guest blogger David Hitt, who, like me, writes feature articles forthe For Studentssection on

One of the cool things about working and writing for NASA isthat you get the chance to meet and talk to astronauts. It adds something to watching a shuttle launch when I’ve hadthe opportunity to meet some of the people on board. It makes it a little morepersonal, a little more real.

And it’s always very cool to me when a shuttle mission fliescarrying an astronaut that I met “back when.”

The STS-133 crew

The crew of STS-133,for example, includes three astronauts that I’ve had the chance to meet. First,there’s Alvin Drew.When I met Drew, he had just returned from the fairly high-profile STS-118mission that flew the first education mission specialist astronaut, and hadbeen named by People magazine as one of the nation’s hottest bachelors.

Eric Boe and Tim Kopra, onthe other hand, I met fairly early in their careers. Both of them had not yetflown in space the first time I saw them. I met each when they piloted planesto bring other astronauts to Marshall Space Flight Center to talk about recentmissions.

Since then, Kopra has gone on to spend two months in spaceas a crew member on the International Space Station, and Boe was part of aspace shuttle mission that added a bathroom, kitchenette, two bedrooms and gymequipment to the space station.

And the “fourth” member of the crew I met “back when” — Robonaut 2.

Robonaut 2 using a hand-held electronic device

Except he wasn’t Robonaut 2 when I met him; he was stilljust Robonaut. I saw an early version, still in development in a lab in theback of Johnson Space Center’s Building 9, best known as the home of spacecraftmock-ups used in astronaut training. But the coolest thing — I got to lookthrough his eyes. Robonaut’s head features two cameras, that let a remoteoperator see what’s in front of Robonaut via a 3-D headset. And I got to put onthe headset, and see what Robonaut saw. Very cool. And now he’s about to flyinto space for the first time. Even cooler.

Cooler still, thanks to Robonaut 2’s Twitter account, @AstroRobonaut, you’ll be able todo the social networking equivalent of what I did — see spaceflight throughRobonaut’s eyes. Look how far he’s come.

I’m excited about seeing what Boe, Drew and Kopra (and theircrewmates) will do on the STS-133 mission. But I have to admit that,personally, I’m even more excited about following Robonaut 2’s adventures inspace. I’m enough of a science-fiction geek that I find the idea of real-liferobots working on a real-life space station somewhat futuristic and more than alittle cool. Granted, Robonaut 2 won’t be the first robot on the space station.There are the robot arms and Dextre,the “robot hand,” mounted on the outside of the station. And there are thefree-floating bowling-ball-sized SPHERES(Synchronized Position Hold, Engage, Reorient, Experimental Satellites) thatcan fly through the space station — and which can run programs written bycollege and highschool students on Earth!

But Robonaut 2 is a little different. R2 is a little closerto the science-fiction ideal of the “android” member of a spacecraft’s crew, alittle slice of “Star Wars” or “Star Trek” brought to life. I had theopportunity to write a feature for students about Robonaut 2 recently, and thepotential R2 presents down the road is pretty incredible — humanoid robotsperforming spacewalks to repair the space station, or even exploring thesurface of other worlds. As the old saying goes, tomorrow’s science fiction istomorrow’s science fact!