Old sailors never die,they just fade away

During the Korean conflict, my dad was an airman in the US Navy flying on antisubmarine patrols over the Pacific ocean.  In those days they flew P2V Neptune aircraft.  Only a few of those old birds are still flying as water tankers in the war with forest fires every summer.  The P2V’s have all been replaced long ago with P-3 Orions and those planes are slated for replacement in the near future with something called a P-8 which may not even have a name yet.

But I digress.  The point I was going to make is that there are a whole bunch of web pages, blogs, and other internet space taken up by veterans of these old naval squadrons.  And they seem to agree on just one point:  the P2V was the very best airplane ever built and the men that crewed her were the very manliest of men.

Now this may come as a shock to you since the P2V is not the most notable aircraft that you probably have never heard of.  Never mind, it has to do with the folks who worked day in and day out in dangerous conditions on those old birds.  However, if you look around on the internet you may find folks from other squadrons that flew other planes that happen to think that their plane was the best ever . . or ship . . . or tank . . .

So I imagine that from the old folks home I will be doing whatever is the equivalent of blogging in those days (maybe sooner than I think) about why the space shuttle was the best ever spacecraft.

But you know, something better may just come along.  I really hope it does.  Because we need to get past just low earth orbit.  And we need to do it soon.

Flying the shuttle longer came up again today.  I think you know where I stand on that.  We need to move on because it is really past time to do so.  And you know what?  I am OK with that.

I am feeling very positive today because I have been in a two day meeting where the focus is on the moon; robotic missions in the near term, human sorties later, then outposts and settlements.  And after that . . . Mars.

There are many ways to get there, lots of possible alternatives in the architecture.  But we need to get there.  And stay.  And go on. 

With all the excitement of the young people (and the young at heart people) at the lunar exploration meetings this week, I am sure we can do this.  There is enough energy and creativity to see it through.  Not just flags and footprints this time; going back to stay and work.

Last week I got to get up close and personal with the lunar lander competitors at Las Cruces airport.  There is a lot of good innovation there and these amateurs may be the source of our best ideas for real lunar landers in the not-very-distant future. 

I haven’t looked, but I bet those guys have a web page too.  And I bet their web page says they have the best spaceship ever. 

If you are not part of this — I mean of really doing something — then you are missing out. Whether you are with NASA or Armadillo or SpaceX or Virgin, we are all really pursuing the same goal.  Making dreams come true.  Advancing the human spirit by moving human bodies further into the universe. 

Its really great.  These are the very best of times. You should be part of it too.

3 thoughts on “Old sailors never die,they just fade away”

  1. Pride is a heckuva thing, and when it comes to operating an aircraft/spacecraft/ship/whatever, in order to do a really good job, you almost *have* to get so close to your vehicle that you develop an almost transcendent pride in it.

    The P-8 does have a name, incidentally. It’s the P-8 Poseidon, and it’s derived from the Boeing 737 (for better or for worse; obviously Lockheed believes their proposal was better, but that’s how it is with a project — you invest yourself in it, and you become proud of it like you’d be proud of your own child).

  2. Mr.Hale,

    The first P-8A Poseidon, the P-3 Orion’s replacement, rolled off the assembly line in July of 2008 and should start flight testing next year. The command I work for,Operational Test and Evaluation Force, will be conducting testing prior to IOC in 2013.

  3. I saw the first Columbia landing when I was a student at UCLA and I’ve been in awe ever since. I think the Space Shuttle will be the most amazing engineering achievement for some time in the future. When I was a kid the X-15 was the coolest space plane, in some ways still is, but it didn’t achieve what the Shuttle has.

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